Computer builders united!

[YO_MA_MA]

ok, heres the deal. im thinking on buying a new gaming tower, cus my current one is a bit slow now and id like a little more ummf.

this is what im thinking of
CPU (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115028)
MOBO (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131196)
VID CARD (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150173)
RAM (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227181)
PSU (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182030)
HDD (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136053) 2x-4x (debating size)
CASE (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811133037)

this is where the computer builders (zander, squirrl and any others) say "na that ram sux, this is better" etc etc. im thinking on doing some overclocking, like 3.4-3.6 so i might need a more robust PSU (plz give suggestions)

anyway, hope to get some feed back. thx again!
YOMAMA!

[TheTryHard]

ok, heres the deal. im thinking on buying a new gaming tower, cus my current one is a bit slow now and id like a little more ummf.

this is what im thinking of
CPU (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115028)You right there in C2Q price range. Up to you though.
MOBO (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131196)I heard good things about the Gigabyte P35-DS3R. Thats why I got it.
VID CARD (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150173)Either XFX, or eVGA(nice choice)
RAM (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227181)I'm partail to that Crucial stuff, and it is good stuff.http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148069)/B]
PSU (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182030)Iono, bout that one. Find a nice OCZ. Corsair, Enermax, or Seasonic.
HDD (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136053) 2x-4x (debating size)The Seagates with perp recording are supposed to be nice.
CASE (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811133037)Dosn't matter to much here, but check this case out....http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129021

this is where the computer builders (zander, squirrl and any others) say "na that ram sux, this is better" etc etc. im thinking on doing some overclocking, like 3.4-3.6 so i might need a more robust PSU (plz give suggestions)

anyway, hope to get some feed back. thx again!
YOMAMA!

I gave it go:bounce:

[syriquez]

Personally, I'd recommend the Thermaltake Armor that has one of those 250mm/25cm fans in the side. It's what I use and it works fantastically. Nice and quiet will still useful for cooling.

In regards to cases not mattering...yeah, maybe with equipment that has been on the market for multiple years, then the default beige dell case will cool your system enough.

...Does Dell/anyone even still sell plain beige computer cases on any of their ready-built systems anymore? Hell, even HP/eMachine/Compost seem to be going with multiple-colored or lit-up cases now. Anyways...

[Silent-Er@sEr]

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2235424&CatId=2533

[YO_MA_MA]

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2235424&CatId=2533

ohhh, i like, and i was ganna go for a blue led theme so its perfect. little higher watts (good) sata, and bigger fan(s). thx silent.

[YO_MA_MA]

sorry if it looks like im double posting, wont let me edit last nights post >.>

my updated version of the computer build is:

same CPU (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115028)
same MOBO (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131196)
same VID CARD (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150173)
changed RAM (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148069) (thx tryhard)
changed PSU (http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2235424&CatId=2533) (thx silent)
changed CASE (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129021) (thx tryhard)
current total price is in my range so im happy: ~$1,270 (after tax/shipping)

this is what it stands so far, im looking for a few good hard drives. i hear seagate is one of the best (from many sources) but in the past ive always had western digital. none of my hard drives have broken except that one that was brand new and when i installed it i heard the chip crack when i connected the power (oops) but i got a free replacement from bestbuy so i had a new one that day.

im not 100% how much room i should have. im thinking on buying a 2 huge RAID ones to put in this (server-ish) computer to run music videos etc off. any suggestions would kick ass. thx again might end up needing 4-6 hard drives.
current storage uses: music (27 gigs) videos (50 gigs) cd images (123 gigs) i frap alot and need room for games that are like 5+gigs.
my current HDD space: C is at 37/74gigs, D is at 125/149gigs, E is at 230/298gigs (all numbers are in space used/space total)
plz suggest size and brand (or give links)

thx again!
YO_MA_MA

[Flying_skulk]

When you actually start building it and parts aren't working, always remember, if something fails, always assume its the cable first, its the easiest thing to fix. Unlike me who forgot this and spent the day fighting to get my new sata drive detected by my bios and windows. damn faulty power cable.

[YO_MA_MA]

lol ouch. well now ive come across the issue of dual core vs quad core.

my real life friend is going to get a quad core and to my surprise it was $10 cheaper. what am i missing?
his quad core (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115017)
my dual core (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115028)

my stock clock speed is faster but im sure there is more im missing. thx for the updates.
YO_MA_MA

[TheTryHard]

BTW, What CPU cooling you gonna use?

[TheTryHard]

lol ouch. well now ive come across the issue of dual core vs quad core.

my real life friend is going to get a quad core and to my surprise it was $10 cheaper. what am i missing?
his quad core (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115017)
my dual core (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115028)

my stock clock speed is faster but im sure there is more im missing. thx for the updates.
YO_MA_MA

Lets look at some charts, shall we?
http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu_2007.html?modelx=33&model1=871&model2=872&chart=441

[RevAlSharpton]

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3208228&CatId=1599

FSB on your Mobo is around 450, this one's 533 and up.

[YO_MA_MA]

Lets look at some charts, shall we?
http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu_2007.html?modelx=33&model1=871&model2=872&chart=441
thx for the numbers, i do like visual better then verbal
and CPU cooling, probably after market Zalman, i have one for my current and its perty...

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3208228&CatId=1599
FSB on your Mobo is around 450, this one's 533 and up.
wanna give me the 1 paragraph on FSB? im assuming its the faster that is the faster you can go.

[TheTryHard]

thx for the numbers, i do like visual better then verbal
and CPU cooling, probably after market Zalman, i have one for my current and its perty...

Hmm, ok. I went with the Zalman 9700 led. Its got that blue led stuff your looking for. I'll get you a pic of mine later, through my case window. It comes with a fan controller, but I dinn't install in. I plugged it straight into the motherboard, so mine runs 2800RPM 100% of the time.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835118019

[YO_MA_MA]

perfect, thats basically what i was ganna get, thx for the link.

so vote: quad or dual core?

[RevAlSharpton]

wanna give me the 1 paragraph on FSB? im assuming its the faster that is the faster you can go.


N/A
Tech Level: somewhat high
Ownership: 1 month to 1 year
8/30/2007 1:02:26 PM
Great.

Pros: 100% stable out of the box, but thats expected. OC'd decently too.

Cons: Could only get somewhere between 450-475 FSB. Won't boot at 475, but is stable at 450.

Other Thoughts: Couldn't get past 475 FSB, but I haven't really tried pushing the voltage because I have it in a Lian Li case with the inverted MoBo design. Curious about what other people are getting. BTW I'm running it with Ballistix PC8000 and E6320.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductReview.aspx?Item=N82E16813131196

a front side bus capable of 1333/1066/533 MHz
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3208228&CatId=1599

I read all of the reviews for the P5N-E and couldn’t find any FSB issues.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductReview.aspx?Item=N82E16813131142&SortField=0&SummaryType=0&Pagesize=10&SelectedRating=-1&Page=1

so vote: quad or dual core?
Quad, here’s the numbers:
http://videoediting.digitalmedianet.com/articles/viewarticle.jsp?id=83846
http://blogs.vmware.com/vmtn/2007/07/comparing-dual-.html
http://blogs.vmware.com/performance/2007/07/comparing-intel.html

:ranger:

Does this deserve some rep points? :)

[YO_MA_MA]

Does this deserve some rep points? :)

i would if i could.. given u to much rep already.. wont let me :(

anyway i think im swaying to quad core. only thing that seems to beat it, on occasion, is dual core extreme (and thats a few $100s more)

is there anything else i should know? ill probably buy it in a few weeks or so.

[TheTryHard]

There are not many applications out there that can utilize quad. A few games, Chysis and Alan Wake are all the games I can recall(maybe some others). If you use AutoCAD or decoding, you should go quad.The reason I didnt get a quad is, Im gonna build a new comp in about 4-5 months anyway.

So, how long before you think you'll get a new comp? The quad is more futureproof, but there's not a lot of apps that utilize quads right now.

[YO_MA_MA]

i was thinking within a month for this computer. i usually buy one about every 1.5-2 years. i do video editing and have messed around with massive 3D programs. a friend of mine wants me to get solid works (kinda like autocad but alot more in-depth and used for CNC machines) even when it wasnt in the top 5 the quad core was within the top 10ish. i think im ganna go ahead with the quad. thx again for all your input.

[TheTryHard]

I would buy from somewhere that guaranties GO stepping as opposed to B3 stepping.Its the 95watt version of the Q6600 that runs quite a bit cooler so overclocking limits are raised further.

http://www.tankguys.com/product_info.php?products_id=1712
http://clubit.com/product_detail.cfm?itemno=CA1938452

[YO_MA_MA]

alright then, im about 95% sure this will be my setup i buy... spent a little over my intended budget, totaling out at about $1,900 (shipping/tax included), but i believe it will be a enjoyable investment. All is going to be bought from newegg because ive always used them in the past and have always been satisfied thus far.

the system is as follows:
MOBO (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131196)
CPU (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115017)
VIDEO CARD (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150232)
RAM (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148070)
PSU (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341002)
CASE (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129021)
CPU heatsink (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835118019)
HARD DRIVES 2x (raid0) (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136039)
DVD ROM (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16827151151)

im not ganna get monitors / speakers cus im just ganna use my current ones so that saves a good amount of cash =P

/edit: forgot hard drives and DVD rom so up goes my prices another hundred or so.

any last comments on this? most of the rebates on these items ($85 end 9/16 and 9/30 so ill either buy on the 16th, or about the 25th-ish. (thinking 25th cus something else will probably go on sale and i get paid the 20th)

thx for everyones help, it made this so much easier.

[YO_MA_MA]

the dead is done, bought half the parts that are on sale now, and tonight or tomorrow ill buy the rest. thx again